‘Breathing the Same Air as POWs’
| Monday April 7, 2003
Barbara Ferguson, Arab
News War Correspondent ON THE USNS COMFORT IN THE ARABIAN SEA, 7 April 2003 — “The
Iraqis will fight you like hell, and whip the shit out of you. But as
soon as they see they’re losing, they give up and we have to treat
them humanely. It’s hard,” said Pvt. Jason Keough, who was hit by
shrapnel in his amphibious vehicle while moving in on Nassiriyah. Keough is the only Marine unhappy about the POWs being treated on
board with injured Marines. “The first day here, they put a POW right next to me in the ward.
That was crazy. You can’t put someone in with you when he was just out
there trying to kill you. It may not have been the exact one, but it’s
still the enemy. Those Iraqis, they treat us like f—-ing shit when
they capture us, but we have to treat them humanely.” Keough said he has no plans to return soon to the Middle East: “I
want to stay as far away from here as possible. No, I don’t see any
vacation plans in the Middle East soon. Didn’t see much I liked while
there, and there’s nothing worse than fighting a battle in the desert
with nowhere to hide.” “Look, we’re not in Iraq to make it our 51st state, we’re in
Iraq to make the world a safer place,” said Capt. Sam (Harry) Porter,
32, who was run over by a tank. Asked about having POWs on board, Porter said: “I understand and
agree with the logic. If the enemy knows they will be fairly treated, it
will be easier for them to give up. But if they think they will be
treated harshly or killed, they will fight like hell and take down a lot
of Marines with them.” Asked his personal feelings about the war, Porter said: “It’s
brutal, like all wars. I think a lot of Iraqi people are caught up in
something where they’re not willing participants. Think there are some
brutal people in the regime who are forcing the Iraqis to do something
they may not want to do; but they know they have to do it, or they’ll
be killed by the regime.” Porter said he’s traveled enough around the world to know that
people are basically the same wherever one goes. “Everybody everywhere
wants the best for their family, and a good life.” He also has no vacation plans in the area: “This is my third trip
to the Middle East. I never want to come back. But then I said that the
last time I was here, too. I was here in 1997-98, and then again in
1998, both times on training operations as a signals intelligence
officer. This is it for me.” Sgt. Jacob Hopkins, 22, has been a Marine for almost three years, and
was hurt by “friendly fire.” The Marines are “respecting our part of the deal regarding how
we’re treating their wounded,” he said, “but the way they’re
treating our POWs... I have no respect for them.” Despite the fact that he has “no love for them,” Hopkins said:
“But I’ll respect the Geneva Convention and will respect them if
they surrender in the field.” 1st Lt. Andrew Turner, 26, who lost three members of his crew in a
helicopter accident, has no problem with the POWs on board. “I know there are POWs here; someone has to take care of them and
we’re humanitarian enough to do that. We’re trying to show that
we’re not here to conquer, but that we’re here to liberate, which is
why we’re doing this.” Sgt. Sidney Young, 35, was injured by mortar fire at Umm Kasr, and
also has no problem with POWs on board: “I don’t care. I was in the
first Gulf War, and I was in Somalia. An enemy is an enemy, you have to
fight them. But when they give up, they’re no longer your enemy.” He said the Iraqis were tough fighters: “I’ve seen them when they
give up; they’re usually cut up pretty badly. You feel sorry for them,
but your heart also teaches you to be hard and callous, because once you
let your guard down you become vulnerable and they can get you.” Sgt. Steven Zaker, 26, was injured when his group entered the
Nassiriyah hospital where the chemical suites were found. He’s fine
with the POWs on board. “If they’re cool, it’s okay. It’s not their fault. I
personally don’t have any gripes against them. They just put me, and
my group, in danger. We’re all a produce of our environment,” he
said. “If someone I don’t know has done something that’s not aimed
directly at me, then I’m not mad at them. You have to be directly hurt
to harbor a grudge against somebody. We just live in a different
world.” |
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